Comments for Internet Archive Blogs http://blog.archive.org A blog from the Collections Team at archive.org Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:59:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on 12 Hours Dark: Internet Archive vs. Censorship by ericswan http://blog.archive.org/2012/01/17/12-hours-dark-internet-archive-vs-censorship/#comment-105591 ericswan Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:59:30 +0000 http://blog.archive.org/?p=4343#comment-105591 Beware the censorship you have imposed on yourself. Beware the censorship you have imposed on yourself.

]]> Comment on 12 Hours Dark: Internet Archive vs. Censorship by intelics http://blog.archive.org/2012/01/17/12-hours-dark-internet-archive-vs-censorship/#comment-105420 intelics Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:31:39 +0000 http://blog.archive.org/?p=4343#comment-105420 The Internet Archive is a treasure trove of stolen copyrighted material. People upload whatever they want, whether under copyright or not. Sites like this one don't want laws like SOPA simply because you don't want to be held responsible for the stolen material you host. The Internet Archive is a treasure trove of stolen copyrighted material. People upload whatever they want, whether under copyright or not. Sites like this one don’t want laws like SOPA simply because you don’t want to be held responsible for the stolen material you host.

]]> Comment on Want to help build a distributed web? by John http://blog.archive.org/2012/02/15/want-to-help-build-a-distributed-web/#comment-105389 John Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:30:59 +0000 http://blog.archive.org/?p=4492#comment-105389 Hi, would you please tell us exactly what will you doing? you want to close IA? So how can we reach the site? we love your site. Hi,
would you please tell us exactly what will you doing? you want to close IA? So how can we reach the site? we love your site.

]]> Comment on Want to help build a distributed web? by Mary Murrell http://blog.archive.org/2012/02/15/want-to-help-build-a-distributed-web/#comment-104820 Mary Murrell Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:10:56 +0000 http://blog.archive.org/?p=4492#comment-104820 Is this a possible solution?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content-centric_networking Is this a possible solution?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content-centric_networking

]]> Comment on Want to help build a distributed web? by brewster http://blog.archive.org/2012/02/15/want-to-help-build-a-distributed-web/#comment-104771 brewster Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:06:16 +0000 http://blog.archive.org/?p=4492#comment-104771 Thank you, Ben, we will check out Swarm. On twitter iamtef suggested that "put a magnet url in a Link rel=... header, use a bittorrent plugin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme" On Twitter iamtef suggested that "to some extent, the pirate bay have already done this https://torrentfreak.com/bittorrents-future-dht-pex-and-magnet-links-explained-091120/ " We thank you for those suggestions and the others that have appeared. We have met and will be trying them on for size to see. I love the web-- so much has already been done, sometimes you just have to find it. -brewster Thank you, Ben, we will check out Swarm.

On twitter iamtef suggested that “put a magnet url in a Link rel=… header, use a bittorrent plugin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme”

On Twitter iamtef suggested that “to some extent, the pirate bay have already done this https://torrentfreak.com/bittorrents-future-dht-pex-and-magnet-links-explained-091120/ ”

We thank you for those suggestions and the others that have appeared. We have met and will be trying them on for size to see.

I love the web– so much has already been done, sometimes you just have to find it.

-brewster

]]> Comment on Please Donate to the Internet Archive by internetarchive http://blog.archive.org/2011/12/07/please-donate-to-the-internet-archive/#comment-104545 internetarchive Thu, 16 Feb 2012 00:19:21 +0000 http://blog.archive.org/?p=4185#comment-104545 Absolutely. Internet Archive 300 Funston Avenue San Francisco, CA 94118 We appreciate any and all contributions. Thank you. Absolutely.

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]]> Comment on Want to help build a distributed web? by Ben Moskowitz http://blog.archive.org/2012/02/15/want-to-help-build-a-distributed-web/#comment-104482 Ben Moskowitz Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:26:48 +0000 http://blog.archive.org/?p=4492#comment-104482 The folks at Wikimedia worked with P2PNext to do something very similar: http://trial.p2p-next.org/ I believe that the SwarmPlayer is currently functional for Wikipedia-hosted videos. Would be very interesting to learn from their experience. And, the Ignite challenge that's launching later this year would be a great place to explore the possibilities of systems like this: https://mozillaignite.org/blog/ The folks at Wikimedia worked with P2PNext to do something very similar:

http://trial.p2p-next.org/

I believe that the SwarmPlayer is currently functional for Wikipedia-hosted videos.

Would be very interesting to learn from their experience.

And, the Ignite challenge that’s launching later this year would be a great place to explore the possibilities of systems like this: https://mozillaignite.org/blog/

]]> Comment on Want to help build a distributed web? by Tod Robbins http://blog.archive.org/2012/02/15/want-to-help-build-a-distributed-web/#comment-104469 Tod Robbins Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:13:57 +0000 http://blog.archive.org/?p=4492#comment-104469 How about a logo? How about a logo?

]]> Comment on Want to help build a distributed web? by tef http://blog.archive.org/2012/02/15/want-to-help-build-a-distributed-web/#comment-104458 tef Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:39:15 +0000 http://blog.archive.org/?p=4492#comment-104458 To some extent, The Pirate Bay have been doing this already: Links to files have been replaced with a Magnet URI (a uri with a hash digest). When a user clicks on it, the torrent client starts the download. The clients form a DHT to share and lookup magnet information. http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrents-future-dht-pex-and-magnet-links-explained-091120/ Unlike the pirate bay, IA can run peers in the swarm, as well as a tracker (the magnet links can point to it), to have less reliance on the DHT and Peer Gossip. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0009.html This seems to solve many of the problems you outline above - The remaining problem is how to upgrade the existing downloads/links with magnet information. Unfortunately, there is no established way to augment a link with a magnet link. Or to upgrade in-place from a HTTP download to a torrent download. Putting a link in the header would seem a good place to start: Link: ; rel="alternate"; title="magnet". Another approach would be trying to detect if a plugin was present, and using javascript to re-write all marked links on the page with magnet uris. It may just be easier to add magnet links to all download links, run a tracker & peers for now, and solve the automatic-upgrade problem later. I would wager that a significant chunk of users who are downloading from the internet archive are savvy enough to use bittorrent, or at least the ones capable of installing a browser plugin. To some extent, The Pirate Bay have been doing this already: Links to files have been replaced with a Magnet URI (a uri with a hash digest). When a user clicks on it, the torrent client starts the download. The clients form a DHT to share and lookup magnet information.

http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrents-future-dht-pex-and-magnet-links-explained-091120/

Unlike the pirate bay, IA can run peers in the swarm, as well as a tracker (the magnet links can point to it), to have less reliance on the DHT and Peer Gossip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme
http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0009.html

This seems to solve many of the problems you outline above – The remaining problem is how to upgrade the existing downloads/links with magnet information.

Unfortunately, there is no established way to augment a link with a magnet link. Or to upgrade in-place from a HTTP download to a torrent download. Putting a link in the header would seem a good place to start: Link: ; rel=”alternate”; title=”magnet”. Another approach would be trying to detect if a plugin was present, and using javascript to re-write all marked links on the page with magnet uris.

It may just be easier to add magnet links to all download links, run a tracker & peers for now, and solve the automatic-upgrade problem later. I would wager that a significant chunk of users who are downloading from the internet archive are savvy enough to use bittorrent, or at least the ones capable of installing a browser plugin.

]]> Comment on 12 Hours Dark: Internet Archive vs. Censorship by Internet http://blog.archive.org/2012/01/17/12-hours-dark-internet-archive-vs-censorship/#comment-104451 Internet Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:16:02 +0000 http://blog.archive.org/?p=4343#comment-104451 In Europe we are struggling with the same problem, here it's just called ACTA. Large public demonstrations against this law. You can read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement Best of luck, Josh In Europe we are struggling with the same problem, here it’s just called ACTA.

Large public demonstrations against this law. You can read more about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement

Best of luck,
Josh

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